[Moon-net] ARRL contest....an after thought

Tue Oct 23 02:27:51 CDT 2007

I missed this email, as lately I've been wandering around the globe a bit too much. Sorry.

Anyhow, going back to it, I think it is a very important subject and I like to add my 2c comment. I share the same Ben's thoughts.   I understand that there are some stations that can do multiple bands at the same time or almost at the same time shifting bands quickly, but I bet there are many others that can't do that. I can't.

Now, if I would like to go and join some other station to work/assist/build experience on other bands without loosing my chances when it is the 'good' weekend for me, it would be a very good thing to have one band per weekend.  That will surely foster friendship and teamwork among hams (a thing which is extremely lacking at least here) and possibly be a good moment to become mentors for newbies.  I guess we could really catch many positive things by just rearranging the way we schedule our weekends now.

If we then like to call them 'contests' or 'activity weekends' that's the next step.  I think that we should aim for contests, after all now we have only USA, Germany and Italy organizing EME contests in the whole globe.  I guess it shouldn't be impossible to find other nations willing to organize a single band contest.  

What do you folks think?

Best 73s,

Sergio IK2MMB

-----Original Message-----
From: moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net [mailto:moon-net-bounces at list-serv.davidv.net] On Behalf Of SM6CKU
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 3:19 PM
To: F2TU Philippe; Charlie Kahwagi; MOON_NET
Subject: Re: [Moon-net] ARRL contest....an after thought

Hello guys

Aren't there enough weekends to have one for each band? I think that will be 

the best solution.

I don't think ARRL is willing to change again but anyone can organize such 

an event.

73 de Ben

SM6CKU

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "F2TU Philippe" <f2tu.philippe at orange.fr>

To: "Charlie Kahwagi" <ibnkarim at bigpond.net.au>; "MOON_NET" 

<moon-net at list-serv.davidv.net>

Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 2:46 PM

Subject: Re: [Moon-net] ARRL contest....an after thought

Hello Charlie,

I completely agree with you!

But that it is already improved. there was not before two weekends for

all the bands 2m > 10GHz. I fought for changed that. Helped by Al W5LUA

we obtained a third weekend for 2.3GHz & up in 2004. But now many people

on 13cm. Alex RW1AW solved the problem partly: it has at least three

Tranceivers which goes. And much of dishs.

It is true that it is difficult to work on several bands and some make

better dead ends to have qsos or to make initials on a band.

For this contest, I juggled by changing seven times of feed on the dish

what asked for a total of 90 min, luckily the wx was good. You missed me

because leaving the 5.7GHz 15 min too early to make then only 1 qso

between 21:30 and 23:30 on 2.3GHz! With each exchange one loses qos on a

band: there is Oms which does not make really the contest and which is

not active during all the duration. They sleep them!!!

Rule of European contest is better, but only if you work one day on

10Ghz and one day on 5.7GHz both the same weekend, weekends separated

for 13 & 23cm. And also you are classified in each band, ARRL you choice

only one.

In spite of that it was a very good contest:

13cm 30 qsos (27 for 2006)

6cm 7 qsos (5)

3cm 14 qsos (7)

They missed stations 2006 replaced by others. If all had been there....

But "with IF one could put Paris in a bottle"

Thank you with all for the qsos and my excuses with those which called

me without having answer.

73

Philippe F2TU

http://F2TU.perso.orange.fr

Charlie Kahwagi a écrit :

> What a great weekend on uW EME. Thanks to all the stations whom took the 

> time to contact me, especially when  my window  meant  little reward for 

> less sleep  between the main activity periods.

> 

> I have just had a little email exchange with a few stations anout the WE 

> and  I got thinking.......

> 

> 1. I know there a very few ops in the southern hemisphere at present , 

> and no amount of singing and dancing and shouting will change things but 

> it sure would be nice to have contests with the moon a little higher in 

> the sky and the windows just that little bit longer............wishful 

> thinking I know....majority rules...etc....

> 

> but a more important point:

> 

> 2.  The No. of stations on 13cm and 3 cm  judging by the reports is 

> staggering.  Being QRV on 4 bands I had to make a decision to restrict 

> myself to 2 bands because of time..............In truth I could have run 

> with 13cm  all weekend and I still wouldn't have worked everyone that I 

> potentially could of.  ....and all of this from a QRP station...what about 

> the big guns.....

> Gentlemen are we shooting ourselves in the foot  and DISCOURAGING activity 

> by having  a contest where 13, 9, 6 , 3 and 1.25 (potentially) are on the 

> same weekend!

> Contests are supposed to encourage activity.............If you are QRV on 

> 13cm  why would you want to add another band....obviously for the 

> technical challenge,  but certainly not to make yourself busy during the 

> ARRL 2304 and up weekend.

> It seems that to extract the full potential of activity that could be 

> encouraged on the uW EME bands  we might need seperate weekends for these 

> very busy bands or  lots more "activity weekends" like Peter and Al 

> recently organised for 9cm.

> ...............am I off the track with this one?   If  so I'll crawl back 

> into my hole.

> 

> I just feel that there was an enourmous amount of activity on the bands I 

> did and didn't operate on and that there might be a better way to harness 

> that enthusiasm into  more activity weekends.   (those that do operate on 

> more than 1 band might also get a little more sleep!)

> 

> I am not sure if any of this has been bought up before  and I realise that 

> there are disadvantages and advantages to splitting the contest  over say 

> 2 or 3 weekends  so before you "return fire"  at my thoughts  please be 

> gentle....I'm only new to this!

> 

> 73

> and tnx for all the QSO's

> Charlie

> VK3NX

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